The Puppy Experiment

Raw Feed Update

April 12, 2009 · 6 Comments

So it’s been 5 months now since we started our pup on the raw meat diet. Now she’s not even a pup anymore since we just celebrated her 1 year birthday last month.

Havanese First Birthday!

Havanese First Birthday!

We’re happy to report that she can chomp through chicken drumsticks and thighs like they’re pretzel rods, and slurp down meat faster than Kobayashi can eat hotdogs. We shot this footage while visiting my parents’ place, and she didn’t like the camera or the slippery kitchen floor so she’s acting a bit skiddish.



The Meat

So far, most of her diet is chicken. It’s just convenient for us. We can get chicken for 0.49-0.99 cents/lb and it’s an easy prep/clean up. We buy whatever packages of chicken are available (whole or drumsticks or breasts; 2-3% water; unseasoned), cut it up, put the chunks in plastic bags, and freeze for a week or two. Each bag we freeze (approx 1 lb each) will feed her for about 5 days. We defrost a bag overnight and it’s ready to eat the next morning. She eats twice a day, and each meal for her is about 2 slivers of breast meat or the meat off a drumstick. We also feed her liver once a month- just the size of a thumbnail (our dog is 9 lbs now, full-grown). As for other meats, she tried turkey during Thanksgiving. She enjoyed it, but it was a hard meat to prep. Very sinewy, thick, and has lots of cartilage-like splint things all through the meat. We’ve tried beef, which she loved (but had poo issues, see below). She also loves pork, but we’re a little wary of that other white meat. Honestly, for no logical reason. MANY raw feeders feed their dogs pork on a regular basis so don’t let this post dissuade you. We’re interested in getting our hands on goat, venison, or rabbit but we haven’t really seen it around in stores. If you have a big dog, you might consider ordering meat online in bulk. Depending on your location, you might also be successful with sites like Freecycle. We highly recommend joining Yahoo!’s Rawfeeding group for other people’s experiences, tips, and advice.

Bag of Frozen Chicken, 1 lb

Bag of Frozen Chicken, 1 lb

The Bones
We highly recommend getting a meat cleaver- we got ours in Chinatown. It hacks through bones with little effort. Makes it easier to estimate the 10% bone she’s supposed to get since she’s a small dog. For us, 10% bone is about half a drumstick per meal. She still won’t touch anything with her paws, but she does fine picking up the bones in her mouth and chomping down.

Meat Cleaver

Meat Cleaver

Veggies and Supplements?
Nope, none of the above needed. As long as their diet consists of everything from the prey model, it’s plenty full of their needed vitamins, minerals, etc. Not every single meal has to consist of the prey model though. As long as somewhere in there they get organs once in awhile and a variety of meats + bones, it’s perfectly healthy. We’ve fed our girl salmon on two occasions, which she loved. (If you have excess bones, save them in the freezer. They come in handy on fish-meal days. Without the bone, it’ll give your dog the runs.) If your dog has dry skin, you might consider feeding fish/fish oil.

Helping Her Eat Salmon Sashimi

Helping Her Eat Salmon Sashimi

The Cleanup
We spritz down the floor with our vinegar solution (1 part vinegar, 1 part water, couple squirts of soap). We wash the fur around her mouth with doggie soap. Sometimes we just babywipe her face if it was a clean meal. That’s it….

The Poo

It’s great! Well, as great as poo can be. She poops about twice a day, usually after each meal. It comes out in little hard pellets and stinks much less. She did have a little trouble with raw beef though. It’s fine going down but just recently it gave her Exploding Butt Syndrome for a day and half. We’re not so sure we want to go through cleaning that mess and losing any more rugs, so we’ll probably re-introduce it gradually later on, in moderation.

How Is She Doing Overall?
As for the physical effects of raw feeding, it seems to work wonders. Her coat is silky smooth and she smells great. No need for baths unless she gets a romp around the dog run and decides to roll in the dirt. Her teeth are pearly white with no signs of buildup. We don’t have to do a thing for the upkeep- no brushing, no dog breath products, etc. (Greenies warning here.) The bones in every meal work their magic just fine.

Havanese Teeth - 1 year

Havanese Teeth - 1 year

She’s now bounding with energy with rockhard muscles. Sometimes after a big meal she lies on her back and looks at us blissfully with smiling eyes and tongue hanging out. She’s totally uninterested in eating human food or trash, and she clearly doesn’t miss the kibble one bit. One happy dog.

Raw feeding all the way!

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6 responses so far ↓

  • Eric Cho // April 14, 2009 at 5:04 pm | Reply

    Hi! My wife and I stumbled upon your site and we love the info that you guys are providing! Great stuff. We’re thinking of adopting a havanese pup as well, and we have a couple questions for you, if you don’t mind.

    1 . Why do you guys feed your pup twice a day? After reading the info about raw feeding that we found on your site, I found some additional info that suggested feeding your dog once a day was more than adequate. What are your thoughts? By the way, THANK YOU for introducing us to the prey model! We are going to go with that from day 1

    2. I haven’t been able to find this info, but for young puppies, do you still feed them 2-3% of their ideal adult body weight? Or should it be less than that, since they’re smaller and younger?

    3. I believe you guys are in New York City. Where in NY are you located? My wife and I live near downtown Brooklyn.

    Thanks for any feedback that you can provide. We really appreciate the input!

    • writeawrong // April 15, 2009 at 8:25 am | Reply

      Hey Eric, nice to meet you! Thanks for stumbling in on us =)

      1. young pups can be fed more frequently, even 3 times a day for a couple months. this is their growing/developing period and they metabolize quickly. as they mature, you can reduce feeds to once a day, but let your dog dictate this one and watch for signs of hunger (licking floors, eating random things, etc)

      2. puppies should be fed 2-3% of their ideal ADULT weight, and small/toy breeds can be fed up to 4-5% of their adult weight. But since it’s an estimated adult weight, again, let your pup gauge this one. our girl was supposed to be 6lbs, but grew to 9lbs and as a puppy, she ate much more than the 2-3%. just use this as a starting point…

      good luck to you! keep us updated and let us know of any tips/tricks you find along the way =)

  • Maria // April 21, 2009 at 5:04 am | Reply

    Thanks for the updates on your doggy. I have followed your stories along the way. and now that I have my shih tzupuppy I am glad to have foudn you guys for tips and anegdotes on life with a dog. I bought the wacky walker and will purchase the pee platform you guys had for her.
    Now I just hope it wouldnt’ cost so much to be shipped to Paris, France!

    • writeawrong // April 23, 2009 at 8:15 am | Reply

      Hi Maria,
      Good to hear from you =)
      How is the walkr leash working for you? It took us a few walks to use the springiness to its full potential.
      As for the ugodog- it definitely made our apt life more convenient. Our dog will do her business outside when we take her for walks, but she uses the ugodog the rest of the day, which is great so she doesn’t have to hold anything in.

      Good luck to you!

  • Jason loves Superfoods // May 11, 2009 at 7:31 am | Reply

    Been raw for about one year and it has been one of the best transformations of my life :) Love the community. No meat for me though :) Think pups can add raw superfoods into their diet – Marine Phytoplankton and Blue green algae? Do they have to have meat? just curious. thanks.

    • writeawrong // May 13, 2009 at 7:12 pm | Reply

      It’s a highly controversial subject, and there are some raw feeders who think dogs should also have veggies in their diet, but based on how well our dog is doing on just raw meat and bone, we’re sticking to the meat only diet. Based on our research, dogs’ digestive systems are best suited for a raw diet consisting of only animal flesh, bones and organs, a.k.a. the prey model. We do, however, cheat a little bit and treat her to some veggie and fruit cuttings from time to time.

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